Moving from verse 30 to verse 34, let me ask a question.
First, are there any LDS scholars or laymen, past or present, who believe the gods can be in reference to angels?
Moving from verse 30 to verse 34, let me ask a question.
First, are there any LDS scholars or laymen, past or present, who believe the gods can be in reference to angels?
What if angels are gods?
Hey y’all, I just discovered that the Encyclopedia of Mormonism is now online:
http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Encyclopedia_of_Mormonism
Would that bother me? No, Seth.
The bigger the divine council of elohim, the more to magnify the one true El.
The assembly of El blows away anything in existence, anywhere.
Todd, it seems to me that collapsing the ontological divide between God and man is not all that philosophically problematic. You’ve already got the perfect tool to do it – the idea of perichoresis inherent in Christian explanations of trinity.
If it is possible for two separate beings – the Father and the Son – to “indwell” within each other, why not more beings? Why not you and I?
John’s Gospel absolutely teaches the Christ and humans indwelling one another. I am bedazzled by all the implications. I need to get into this.
And though the book does not confirm your first sentence in your first paragraph (unless scripture could be broken), the book does teach over and over no ontological divide between Father and Son.
One God in every way.
And, Seth and Todd, there is St. Paul’s remarkable statement, found in both in Romans and Ephesians, that “we are members one of another”. However, since Paul is writing to those who are, first, “members of Christ, this “perichoresis”, this communion, between Christians, something that is obviously only fully experienced in “the life of the age to come,” is a result, not of creation (although the potentiality is, since we are “created in the image and likeness of God”), but is a result of redemption, and is mediated by the Holy Spirit, by whom we “partake of the Divine Nature”. IOW, the ontological gulf between the Holy Trinity and humanity is bridged, but is not obliterated. Being in Christ, we are called to become, to be made, by grace what God is by nature.
Of course, for us, there is no ontological divide.
For us, the Fall IS the divide. But the divide is nonetheless unbridgeable except through Christ’s Atonement.
C.S. Lewis has some good thoughts.
But in reading BRoz, I categorically reject that the spark of divinity lies within us by nature.
http://ldsdoctrine.blogspot.com/2008/04/psalms-826-ye-are-gods.html
Why shouldn’t we have a spark of divinity in us “by nature?”
What’s the problem?
Seth, by grace, I can be a partaker of the divine nature.
But I know my inherent nature. God does not have my inherent nature, I can tell you that.