What is your belief on the Bible?

The Yellow Dart argues for one tradition.

John Woodbridge argues for another tradition.

What is your belief on the Bible?

You all know where I stand on this issue.  I hold to biblical inerrancy.  Do you think it is because of the community that surrounded me where I grew up?  Or do you think that it is because I received my M.Div. from Bob Jones University?

Or do you think it is an altogether different reason?

P.S. – let me give a plug for Bob Gonzales’ new blog, “It Is Written” – check it out.

10 comments

  1. So…

    You hold that the Bible is inerrant, Todd?

    “Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His blood, you shall not have life within you.”

    Shall I continue?

  2. Charebo, it is ongoing, inside understood debate between Greg and me. I reject his interpretation of the Lord’s words concerning the bread and wine. It is a matter of hermeneutics. And to be fair, Greg, I would not question Augustine’s belief that the Bible is inerrant though he differs with me in a Genesis interp.

    And at least, now a days, there is no murdering of men, women, and children for their not believing in the literal presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

  3. Ah, I see – sorry to interrupt.

    Well, I might as well answer the original question in the blog, yes?

    As long as I’ve been able to consider the question, I’ve always believed in the inerrancy of the Bible, and not just because my pastor (my dad) told me so. I just never saw the logic in thinking that could lead someone to say that the Bible has errors in it, but it still good for some things. If I thought there were errors in the Bible, I wouldn’t be a Christian.

  4. Well, Todd, it is of course all to the good that religious beliefs, or the lack thereof, are not going to result in one’s death, at least not in the West, and at least not at the hands of the state.

    Since Christ came, the lands and peoples most influenced by Him have moved steadily away from killing as a punishment for anything as well as from things like the gladatorial games and slavery as well as doing other things like enhancing the status of women. This is as He wants it, and indeed, that bastion of Orthodoxy, the Byzantine Empire, for all practical purposes did away with capital punishment relatively early, leaving such barbaric actions to the Roman Catholic and later, Protestant, West.

    And, as I’m sure you can recognize, there is no inherent connection between whether or not something is true and whether or not the state persecutes those who think differently.

    The point is, Todd, beliefs have consequences. On its face, and especially in the New Testament, the Bible is absolutely consistent in documenting a sacramental realism that is accepted by the Apostolic Churches, and, in general, de-emphasized, explained away, or outright denied by Protestant communities. A rose may indeed be a rose, but it can also be more than a rose. The question is, what about the goodness of God does a rose manifest to us?

    Would you say, Todd, that someone who denies that Christ is God the Son really believes in biblical inerrancy?

  5. As a “high-church” Protestant (I call myself an Anglo-Lutheran evangelical Catholic), I still hold to inerrancy as a deductive corollary of the inspiration of Scripture. I also hold to infallibility, even though the two terms are hard to distinguish at times (perhaps one is quality and the other a statement of fact?).

    Like Greg, I do see Sacramental leanings in the Scriptures (and hold to the Real Presence or Sacramental Union), and view the “memorialist” position of the Sacraments (or ordinances as some Baptists prefer) as rationalistic. Of course I consider baptists my “cousins” in regards to mere Christianity (part of the same family), and highly respect their high view of Scripture (I have a master’s in theology from a Baptist seminary). I’m probably giving away my “paleo-orthodox” leanings by now (Thomas Oden is a hero of mine)…

  6. By taking an inerrant, even “fundamentalist” view of the first scripture cited by Woodbridge, we can spare ourselves the remainder of his essay, for the history of Christian theology then becomes irrelevant:

    Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life.” (John 14:6)

    Now I shall apply an equally fundamentalist interpretation to a passage from the Book of Mormon:

    “And now, my son, I have told you this that ye may learn wisdom, that ye may learn of me that there is no other way or means whereby man can be saved, only in and through Christ. Behold, he is the life and the light of the world. Behold, he is the word of truth and righteousness. (Alma 38:9 http://bit.ly/nB6y6Y)

    Setting aside attribution, I believe that we could all agree that Jesus Christ is the way, and that there is no other way. Accordingly, anything other than the living Christ can be, at best, supplemental. To have any value at all, it must point us to and connect us with the living Christ.

    Christ said “I am the way.” He did not say, “the Bible is the way,” nor did he say, “the Book of Mormon is the way.” Indeed, no representation of Christ can possibly be Christ himself. Since only the living Christ is inerrant, scripture, even at its best, can not be inerrant.

    Which leads us to a paradox: If Christ is, in fact, the only way, then the two passages I cited cannot be the way, because they are not themselves Christ, but only a sincere effort to deliver to us the words of Christ.

    Just the same, I recommend both books as worthy of patient investigation , and I believe that properly considered, they can, in fact, both lead us to the living Christ, who will then personally take us the rest of the way home.

    Tracy Hall Jr
    hthalljr’gmail’com

  7. Of course, Tracy, if one accepts the Bible in any way whatsoever, acceptance of the Book of Mormon is problemmatic. Why? Because the Bible (and the living Christ, as portrayed therein) denies the possibility of a “Great Apostacy” and, if one is going to be consistent in one’s acceptance of the BoM, one must also that such Apostacy in fact occurred.

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