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Yahweh is El; Yahweh is El-Elyon (Part 6)

John 10:34 has taken me back to Psalms 82 and a plethora of others.

First, are we agreed on the title of this post?

Secondly, concerning El, wouldn’t you agree that He is the ultimate Judge over every council that you can imagine to the farthest stretches of your thinking?  How much scope do you allow for the presidency of El?

Do you think there are elohim in existence beyond the jurisdiction of El?  I can imagine what the Canaanite ancients would say.  But what is the revelation of Yahweh?

Are LDS KJV readers inclined to this? (Part 3)

Arthur W. Pink (1945) writes,

“I and my Father are one” (10:30).  The R.V. correctly renders this verse, “I and the Father are one.”  The difference between these two translations is an important one.  Wherever the Lord Jesus says, “my Father,”  He is speaking as the Mediator, but whenever He refers to “the Father,” He speaks from the standpoint of His absolute Deity.  Thus, “my Father is greater than I” (John 14:28 ) contemplates Him in the position of inferiority.  “I and the Father are one” affirms Their unity of nature or essence, one in every Divine perfection.

Before I go back to what “one” implies in part 4, I need to explore with you the “my” and “the”.  Would you accept Father and Son as equal in power?

The underlying talk before the big day for fundamentalism

As we approach the big 165th anniversary tomorrow, 19 minutes away till July 12, 2008, I am thinking of one of the underlying topics rippling through the I-15 corridor.

No, it is not about the gays in California – we will leave that to Nick and Matt, quoted in the local newspapers.

It is about whether a fundamentalist can really be considered a Mormon. 

Who is going to talk about this tomorrow?

Did you know that fundamentalism is one of my favorite topics?

John 10:30 – this is huge! (added links)

Before I get into this verse deeply and its surrounding context, please tell me what you believe about this statement by the Lord Jesus Christ.
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And let me insert these links:

1. I need someone to unpack for me what is written here by “Dear Elder“:

Mormon beliefs included the belief that when Christ says, “The Father and I are one,”4 Christ did not mean that He and the Father are of one substance. Mormons believe that Christ meant that He and the Father are united in heart, purpose, and thought.

2. “Mormon Cult” claims that evangelicals would use John 10:30 in this fashion:

True Christians know that God and Christ are one (John 10:30), namely one spiritual, indivisible Being of one substance without a visible body and certainly without a “right hand.” And no man can see God (John 6:46), so the Mormon scripture is clearly false.

Is that true? Is the “Mormon Cult” man thorough in his analysis of evangelical exegesis?

3. Mark gets into it.

4. James gets into it a little deeper.

5. The “4witness” website explores John 10:30 and then Ps. 82, but I don’t quite follow their exegesis on the psalm chapter:

6. Whoa, and several months ago, Seth really jumps into an explanation at Rob’s post on this very topic.

7.  And how about one more . . . Matt follows with some favorite LDS leanings in John 17.

Berean’s Amazon Expedition AiG Climax

Berean’s VBS – Sad Turns to Glad (Day 4 – Final Day)

 

This morning, I shaved.  I was looking really scruffy.  For three days with the kids, I have been immersed deeply in the jungles of Corruption, Catastrophe, and Confusion.  I battled an anaconda and threw it into the crowd of squealing and screaming children.  It has been the adventure of our lives.  What a ride!  But today, we know that the Serpent’s head is crushed because of the cross.  The cross is at the blazing center of the glorious work of the Triune God from Genesis to Revelation.

 

HALLELUJAH!

 

Join us tonight in Ammon, Idaho at 7:00 pm for the final program – ice cream sundaes for everyone as we celebrate. 

 

The Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh C’s:  CHRIST, CROSS, CONSUMMATION

 

Devotional thoughts for teachers – God is the Loving Redeemer:

 

I Corinthians 15:21, 45, 47 – “For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.”  “And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.”  “The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.”

 

We pray in worship: 

O Thou Most High, Creator of the ends of the earth, Governor of the universe, Judge of all men, Head of the church, Savior of sinners; thy greatness is unsearchable, thy goodness infinite, thy compassions unfailing, thy providence boundless, thy mercies ever new.  We bless thee for the words of salvation.  How important, suitable, encouraging are the doctrines, promises, and invitations of the gospel of peace!  We are lost: but in it thou hast presented to us full, free and eternal salvation; weak: but here we learn that help is found in one that is mighty; poor: but in him we discover unsearchable riches, blind: but we find he has treasures of wisdom and knowledge.  We thank thee for thy unspeakable gift.  Thy Son is our only refuge, foundation, hope, confidence; we depend upon his death, rest in his righteousness, desire to bear his image; may his glory fill our minds, his love reign in our affections, his cross inflame us with ardour.  (Arthur Bennett, The Valley of Vision, The Banner of Truth Trust (2005), p. 219) (more…)